Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (Full Version)

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Professor Von Snoot -> Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/5/2005 12:57:37 AM)

Pretty funny. Wikipedia lists Bart McQueary as a fictional character based on Phelps.

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bartmcqueary.com (http://www.bartmcqueary.com) Bart McQueary

is a fictional character based on Phelps. The anonymous

author of the site links to numerous articles on Phelps'

website and appears to support him obliquely.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps


Hmmm. Could be. Perhaps they got the idea from the business below!



Stotts-Phelps-McQueary Funeral Home Inc
210 Greensburg St
Columbia
Kentucky 42728



Don't know who Stotts is, but I wonder if Phelps and McQueary provide the hateful protesters for free, or if they charge extra for that? Do the Pall Bearers carry sticks denigrating the dearly departed?




DHirschp -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/5/2005 1:40:04 PM)

Have you ever noticed that the word queer is in Bart's name?




iHATEu10666 -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/5/2005 1:58:20 PM)

I know. That's always perplexed me!




Blossman -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/5/2005 2:54:10 PM)

Phelps looks kinda gay in that cowboy hat and bright red jacket.




Quagmire -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/5/2005 5:23:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Blossman

Phelps looks kinda gay in that cowboy hat and bright red jacket.

Bloss, I'm not trying to stir up an argument or anything, but how come you think that Phelps and McQueary are douchebags. They ARE doing what the bible says any Christian should do. Being that your a Christian, how come you choose to disagree with them and say they are wrong?




Blossman -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/5/2005 5:33:42 PM)

While I do agree that homosexuality is morally wrong, I do not believe in harassing, intimidating, and spewing out hateful bile towards others. While Leviticus 18:22 does condemn homosexuality, does the Gospel not also state "judge not lest ye be judged"? I may find certain behaviors or beliefs to be wrong based on my own convictions. But it does not make the people who practice them are "evil".




David Seabrook -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/5/2005 5:50:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Blossman

While I do agree that homosexuality is morally wrong

You knew I had to ask, but, can you please explain to me what you mean by 'moral?' I'm Catholic too, but disgree with this notion. Does that make me 'immoral?'

Also, didn't Cyric post an entire thread about how the Bible also said touching pig skin is immoral?

If that is the case, do you think playing football is morally wrong, Bloss?

I'm not trying to be difficult Bloss, I just want to know how you define moral.




Blossman -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/6/2005 9:35:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: David Seabrook
You knew I had to ask, but, can you please explain to me what you mean by 'moral?' I'm Catholic too, but disgree with this notion. Does that make me 'immoral?'

Also, didn't Cyric post an entire thread about how the Bible also said touching pig skin is immoral?

If that is the case, do you think playing football is morally wrong, Bloss?

I'm not trying to be difficult Bloss, I just want to know how you define moral.



Well, the part about touching pigskin is pretty open to interpretation. After all, since ham, bacon, and pork chops aren't really the skin per se, it's okay to eat them. With playing football, I thought you knew that the NFL now uses balls made of a synthetic material! [:D]

"Morality" is such a difficult thing to define in today's day and age. I look at it as carrying on a decent standard of living, loyalty to your spouse or significant other, and respecting others' relationships.

I find homosexuality interferes with how God wants us to live. Did He not create a man and a woman? If God wanted men to be intimate with men, I think He would have created 2 men. Just as He would have created 2 women had He wanted women to be intimate with one another. In Genesis, Adam was lonely, and God created a woman for Adam.

That being said, while some may believe they are homosexual, and I do not exactly condone it, I also do not tolerate mistreating, harassing, or demeaning others. I have my beliefs, and others have theirs. I won't use demeaning or mean terms, so long as they don't do it to me. And that is one of the biggest problems. The LGBT-rights community has been trying to promote tolerance with name-calling. If you are offended or opposed to homosexuality, for any given reason, you are automatically a "fundamentalist" or "bigoted" or "hateful". When did name-calling become an effective way to promote tolerance? They have their views. I have mine. They leave me alone, I'll leave them alone.




David Seabrook -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/6/2005 10:24:46 AM)

Thank you for your explanation Bloss, you made some good points as usual.

I define morality as an individual concept--each person has their own set of morals in which they believe in, and would like represented in the political arena. Same thing goes for values. I don't believe there is one right set of morals and values which should be considered superior to other beliefs. What is moral to one person may not be moral in the eyes of the other, and that difference should be respected instead of used to make a case about how one side is more moral than the other.

Opinions do not have to be agreed with to be respected--and how often do these opinions really become interjected into day to day interactions with other people anyway? I think people get caught up in the big picture of 'what is moral' some times, and see stereotypes instead of individual stories (which works both ways). Does that make sense?

I do like the way you handle people you disagree with Bloss, so I believe you don't use demeaning terms when discussing this issue, and that is to be respected. Likewise, I am sorry to people who are labled 'close minded' or 'biggoted.' I think labels really put people on the defensive, and make it difficult to discuss an issue in a civil manner--so that is why it is good that you can have a discussion without resorting to labels, Bloss.




Captain Howdy -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/6/2005 1:35:37 PM)

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I find homosexuality interferes with how God wants us to live. Did He not create a man and a woman? If God wanted men to be intimate with men, I think He would have created 2 men. Just as He would have created 2 women had He wanted women to be intimate with one another. In Genesis, Adam was lonely, and God created a woman for Adam.


But maybe Eve was just a fag hag. After all, Eve sounds a lot like Eva... and Eva Gardner acted as a beard for many Hollywood men.




iHATEu10666 -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/6/2005 1:47:49 PM)

Eva Chavela, underground guitarist who says she needs to build up her "gay posse."




ratman -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/6/2005 3:24:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Quagmire

Bloss, I'm not trying to stir up an argument or anything, but how come you think that Phelps and McQueary are douchebags. They ARE doing what the bible says any Christian should do. ?


That's why the Bible is so stuid. [8|] I don't know why so many people take it so seriously.




Blossman -> RE: Bart McQueary A Fictional Character? Bury Your Gay Loved Ones With Phelps?!? (2/7/2005 10:33:34 AM)

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I define morality as an individual concept--each person has their own set of morals


All in the eye of the beholder

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But maybe Eve was just a fag hag. After all, Eve sounds a lot like Eva... and Eva Gardner acted as a beard for many Hollywood men.


LOL...




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